. >> she was taken down in 2006 and 28th not by a republican but barack obama. >> there is no barack obama at the moment. let's not make too many assumptions. in 1992, nobody wanted to run against george bush in the primary because they thought he was unbeatable. i think somebody will take her hon on if she runs. i think the white house and biden has a confluence of interest and the white house doesn't want to see biden lose his stature and biden doesn't want to lose his stature. biden wants to run and make himself presidential. >> i can't really look forward to 2016 because i can't even look past tomorrow. tomorrow's show, seriously, it is -- i always joke, it's like night of the thousand stars. look at this. willie, look, the mt. rushmore of whatever it is the mt. rushmore of. al gore and bill gates will be on tomorrow. we're looking forward to that. also, coming up today, we're talking to senators john mccain and chuck schumer about their proposals on immigration reform and whether they really think this time is different than last time and former senate majority leader, all aroun